Show: ALL IN with CHRIS HAYES Date: July 29, 2016 Guest: Lana Moresky, Charlie Sykes, Sam Seder, Catherine Rampell
JOY REID, MSNBC HOST (voice-over): Tonight on ALL IN --
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We have 100 days to make our case to America!
REID: Here comes the general.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I just beat 16 people, and I`m beating her.
REID: Day one of Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump.
CLINTON: I can`t think of an election that is more important, certainly in my lifetime.
REID: Hillary Clinton hits the campaign trail, and Donald Trump hits back.
TRUMP: Trump is going to be no more Mr. Nice Guy. Crooked Hillary Clinton, who`s crooked as a $3 bill. I don`t have to be so nice anymore. I`m taking the gloves off.
REID: Tonight, full analysis of the first day on the trail.
Then, new reports that Hillary Clinton`s campaign was hacked.
Plus, today`s stunning decision on voter I.D. that could turn the election.
And history made in Philadelphia last night.
CLINTON: I am accept your nomination for president of the United States!
REID: ALL IN starts right now.
REID: Good evening from New York. I`m joy Reid in for Chris Hayes.
Hillary Clinton hit the campaign trail today for the first time since officially becoming the Democratic presidential nominee, holding a rally this afternoon in Philadelphia, where the Democratic Convention wrapped up with her acceptance speech last night.
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CLINTON: I stayed up really late last night. It was just hard to go to sleep. When I did start moving and Bill and I started drinking our coffee or asking that it be administered through an I.V., we suddenly looked at each other and we realized, as of tomorrow, we have 100 days to make our case to America!
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REID: Clinton began to make that case in her address last night, contrasting her inclusive vision for the country with that of her Republican opponent Donald Trump.
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CLINTON: Don`t believe anyone who says, "I alone can fix it." Americans don`t say, "I alone can fix it." We say, "We`ll fix it together!"
And so, my friends, it is with humility, determination, and boundless confidence in America`s promise, that I accept your nomination for president of the United States!
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REID: Clinton`s rally today was the first stop on an economy-focused bus tour through Pennsylvania and Ohio, along with her running mate Tim Kaine.
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SEN. TIM KAINE (D), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: So we`re starting today this bus tour. Now this is the part of the campaign I really like. I mean, you know, the big events are fun, but I don`t like wearing a tie that much. So I`d rather -- I`d rather just go out and pound the pavement.
CLINTON: So on our bus tour, we`re going to be visiting a few places where people are making things. I find it highly amusing that Donald Trump talks about "Make America Great Again." He doesn`t make a thing in America, except bankruptcies.
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REID: The aforementioned Trump campaign today in Colorado, where he shared his impression of Clinton`s big night.
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TRUMP: I watched last night. I watched Hillary Clinton. What a sad -- what a sad situation. Every time I mention her, everyone screams, "Lock her up." "Lock her up, lock her up, lock her up," they keep screaming. And you know what I do, I`ve been nice.
But after watching that performance last night, such lies. I don`t have to be so nice anymore. I`m taking the gloves off, right?
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REID: Joining me now, MSNBC political analyst Joan Walsh, national affairs correspondent for "The Nation" and a Hillary Clinton supporter. And Nick Confessore, political reporter for "The New York Times", and an MSNBC contributor.
So many titles. You guys are so complicated. Great to have you here.
OK. Joan, so we had this historic moment. It`s interesting, because the whole convention felt like it was built really to speak directly to particularly white, married women, but just women in general. Do you think that Hillary Clinton accomplished anything over the course of those four nights that might actually move the needle for the general election?
JOAN WALSH, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: I think out there in her suffragette white, she did give a lot of American women pride. But I think she also talked beyond it. There was a passage in her speech last night that didn`t get much attention. But she`s always being told she doesn`t tell the Elizabeth Warren/Bernie Sanders story of the economy.
But for the first time in my memory, she said something like the economy isn`t working because democracy -- our politics isn`t working. And she really made the case that it`s decision we`ve made, whether it`s Citizens United, whether it`s the privileging of the banking sector, whether it`s the lack of investment in college education, but these are political choices we`ve made that have made us less prosperous, less secure.
And I thought, she`s beginning to put it together, and not merely sound like, I`ve got a laundry list of things I`m going to do, and I`ve got some infrastructure here and family leave there. So, I thought that was important. And then the inclusiveness message, you know, I thought it was amazing. And the Khan family was the heart and soul of the whole week.
REID: Definitely sort of panoply of what the new America looks like. But just to pick up on a point that Joan made, the Mike Pence critique, and the Donald Trump critique today of the convention. They were painting basically a false world, that`s falsely wonderful, and that the world is actually as horrible as the Republican convention said it was.
I`m wondering, Nick, if you have any sense, when people say the country`s on the wrong track, that could mean that they think it`s politics. But with Barack Obama at over 50 percent, could it also mean what Hillary Clinton said it means, that people feel that the politics is ruining the country, not necessarily that the country is a horrible place?
NICK CONFESSORE, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Good question. It`s hard to know. I think the poll numbers tend to suggest, from my conversations with Trump supporters especially, just a disillusionment with elites in the whole country, right? A lack of investment or interest in the existing system.
What we saw in Cleveland and Philadelphia, was two visions. Fix the system, or blow up the system. It`s those two choices in the selection. That`s what we`re seeing in the convention from Hillary Clinton.
Fix the system. It`s there, we`ll work in it and fix it and come together. Donald Trump is, the system is irretrievable, it`s terrible, and blow it up.
REID: Yes, and it`s interesting that you talk about elites. Because Donald Trump pretended after the convention that he didn`t care that the Democrats had this parade of stars. There were so many celebrities there walking around in the convention center. Let alone the ones who were on the stage. It`s like the entire culture of the United States is on the side of the Democrats and Republicans had like soap stars from the `80s. And it was like a contrast.
WALSH: And Scott Baio.
REID: I mean, that`s right. He wasn`t on a soap. OK, we`ll give him his due, Charles in Charge and Chachi.
Donald Trump basically disavowed the convention. He didn`t want to even admit that he wasn`t there for the non-celebrity affair. But, remember, back in July, "The New York Times," your paper, reported that when he saw drawings for the stage, Donald Trump sent them back, too straight, too nothing. Doesn`t have the drama, doesn`t have the range, in the parlance of the kids.
So, now, he doesn`t like the elites and doesn`t care, then why does he seem to be so bothered by the fact that these showbiz elites shunned him?
CONFESSORE: Well, look, his people are people who feel that the elites are snobs. I think it`s kind of amazing, though, that this is a guy who said, look, I`m not a great speechmaker, I make some mistakes, I`m not raising any money, I`m a little erratic, but I`m going to put on a hell of a show.
WALSH: Right, that`s exactly what he said.
REID: That is what he said.
CONFESSORE: That was he promised. And in fact, like it wasn`t a well- produced show, to the extent that they`re productions and they`re designed to introduce, create an image, create some rhythm. I remember being in Cleveland and thinking, you know, why is the good speaker just before primetime and the general manager of the Trump vineyard in primetime next? It would go up and down and up and down.
I don`t think I`ve seen a convention as expertly produced as Hillary Clinton`s convention since the 2004 convention in New York for the Republicans.
REID: But in the end, Joan, very really quickly, do conventions matter? In the end, do they change votes?
WALSH: I don`t know if they change votes. This one mattered. This one also got under Donald Trump`s skin. So, we`ve got a much more savage Donald Trump, who is now cheering when they say, "Lock her up", who`s taking the gloves off. I think he`s off his game.
REID: If this is taking the gloves off, hate to see what it is, because he hasn`t exactly been nice.
All right. Joan Walsh and Nick Confessore, thank you both very much.
All right. Just over 100 days to the election, two federal rulings today that could have a huge impact on who actually gets to vote. First, a federal appeals court struck down North Carolina`s severe voting restrictions, finding evidence of intentional discrimination by Republican legislators.
Quote, "The only clear factor linking these various reforms," quote/unquote, "is their impact on African American voters. The record thus makes obvious that the problem majority the general assembly sought to remedy was emerging support for the minority party."
Then, a district court judge in Wisconsin overturned aspects of that state`s voter I.D. law and limits on early voting.
I`m joined now by Reverend William Barber, president of the North Carolina NAACP, who brought the Democratic Convention to its feet with an electrifying speech last night.
Reverend Barber, I`ll tell you. Your speech was one of the highlights of the night. One of the things you touched on was, as you said, shocking the heart of the country, in one sense, by restoring voting rights. What do you make of this ruling that the North Carolina voting law, voting reform law has been overturned?
REV. WILLIAM BARBER, PRESIDENT, NORTH CAROLINA NAACP: This is a major moral and civil rights victory. Shelby was the worse rollback of the constitutional voting rights protection we`ve seen since Jim Crow. The monster voter suppression law is the worst law we have seen in the country since Jim Crow. And this is the biggest decision since Shelby, the courts calling it intentional racism, intentional discrimination.
And this is huge, because as you know, Joy, these voter suppression laws are really a lot about the South. If you control the 11 southern states, you control 22 votes in the Senate, you control 31 percent of the U.S. House of Representatives, and you control 162 electoral votes. The only way you can do that now with the changing demographic is to suppress the right to vote.
This is huge. This is a major victory in light of the fact that we don`t have preclearance, Section Five.
REID: If you can just explain a little bit of what that law did and how the court found that it intentionally targeted African-American voters.
BARBER: Everything that they changed that we had fought for years to win, early voting, same-day registration, out of precinct voting, all of those things, registering, 16, 17 years, had been used in very powerful ways by African Americans and Latinos to overcome the past vestiges of voter suppression. North Carolinians were already using these things and they had the data to see the percentages.
And yet, even with that data, they chose to pass this law. But they waited until after Shelby. And then one of their leaders said, now that the headache has been removed, we can do this. In addition, they added the strictest voter I.D. law we have seen, knowing it would have a tremendous discriminatory impact on African-American, poor people, and Latinos.
Someone asked us, were the legislators racist in their hearts? What we say, you judge it by looking at the heart of policy. When the courts looked at the heart of policy, two white judges, one African-American, unanimously said that all of this was unconstitutional and racially discriminatory.
REID: And the question that I guess would follow on, is the state going to appeal, to your knowledge? And if so, is there a possibility that that ruling could be stayed before the election, or do you anticipate that now north Carolinians will get to vote without that law impeding them in November?
BARBER: Yes, they may appeal, the Supreme Court has already not accepted some appeals in some other cases. Our lawyers are looking at that now. But we believe this will be the law of the land and it`s a great victory. It says why we should have preclearance, because if we had preclearance, none of this would have happened in the first place.
But our governor right now is basically saying these are Democratic lawmakers. In other words, that he`s saying that they operate in contempt of the court. He is actually arguing against North Carolinians having the right to vote.
BARBER: That`s how caught up he and the legislators are in their racial motivation, and it`s been exposed. It`s been dealt with by the courts, and we have had a major victory here that will have implications throughout the nation.
REID: Yes, absolutely. Memo to Chief Justice John Roberts, because he might have been wrong about the past being the past.
Thank you very much, reverend William Barber. Really appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank you.
BARBER: Thank you so much. Thank you.
REID: All right. Thank you.
Still to come, we are awaiting Hillary Clinton`s arrival at her event in Pennsylvania. We`ll take you there live when it starts.
Plus, we`ll have much more coverage of the Democratic National Convention. We`ll look at the highlights from the week. Play some great moments you might have missed and unpack Hillary Clinton`s historic moment.
All that and more ahead. Don`t go away.
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CLINTON: Tonight, tonight, we`ve reached a milestone in our nation`s march toward a more perfect union -- the first time that a major party has nominated a woman for president.
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REID: It happened last night in Philadelphia. Hillary Clinton made history, accepting her party`s nomination, with, quote, "humility, determination, and boundless confidence in America`s promise."
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CLINTON: Standing here, standing here as my mother`s daughter, and my daughter`s mother, I`m so happy this day has come. I`m happy for grandmothers and little girls and everyone in between. I`m happy for boys and men, because when any barrier falls in America, it clears the way for everyone.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
After all, when there are no ceilings, the sky`s the limit.
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REID: And joining me now, NBC News presidential historian Michael Beschloss, and Lana Moresky, an Ohio delegate who has volunteered and fundraised for Hillary Clinton`s 2008 presidential campaign, as well as this current campaign.
Thank you to you both and welcome.
I want to start with you, Lana, because you`ve known Hillary Clinton a long time, been on her side for a long time. But you`ve also been very involved in things like now.
What does this milestone mean to you?
LANA MORESKY, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Well, it`s really the fruition of a lifetime -- my lifetime work in advancing women`s equality. I started in 1970 with the Equal Rights Amendment, Title IX, and equal credit, and so much more. And this is one of the things, I didn`t know -- I knew it would happen eventually, but I didn`t know if it would be my lifetime, as we chipped away at the different barriers.
REID: You know, Michael, it`s very true that the women`s movement has had fits and starts since Roe v. Wade. But the Equal Rights Amendment was something that never took off, it never happened. There`s still a huge pay gap between men and women. Put this nomination of a woman for president of the United States in its proper historical context.
How big of a deal is this?
MICHAEL BESCHLOSS, NBC NEWS PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Well, I think one thing that people like me are going to have to explain, and it`s not very easy is, why it took 240 years since the declaration, 96 years after women got the right to vote?
You know, I was thinking last night, Joy, and this probably doesn`t speak well for me. This was a horrible film that came out in 1964 called "Kisses for My President," and the premise was, the first woman president, how humiliating it was for her husband, how ridiculous the idea, and finally, it ends, she resigns because she`s gotten pregnant and can`t handle a family as well as being president.
That was possible to be in the theaters in 1964. If it had come out six years later, people would have been justifiably outraged and probably picketing the theaters. And I think the difference was that in the late 1960s, you had the women`s movement beginning to accelerate. And you had in the 1970s and 1980s, you began to see female governors in America, who were not simply people who will succeed a husband who had died in office, for instance. And the same thing with the Senate, Barbara Mikulski in 1986, who is just now retiring.
It took that long, and it`s one case in which our system did not work as well as it should have.
REID: Yes, indeed. And I want to play something that President Obama said, that I think underscores a kind of seminal truth about what it takes for women. In a lot of cases, people of color as well have the same challenge of what you have to do to get to the same place a man can get to.
Listen to President Obama talking about Hillary Clinton`s qualifications.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I can say with confidence, there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not Bill, nobody, more qualified than Hillary Clinton to serve as president of the United States of America.
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REID: You know, Lana, when Barack Obama was nominated by the Democratic Party, it was said that he had to be the least angry black man in America in order to reach that bar, and that he had to be absolutely perfect, his family had to be perfect, he had to be flawless. Now, you have Hillary Clinton, whose resume is so over the top, you know, with preparation.
What does it say to you that she need that much on her resume to get to the same place Donald Trump has gotten on the Republican side?
MORESKY: Yes. Well, I hope that what it means is that now after we have her, that it will be easier for the next woman. We are very fortunate to have had a woman such as Hillary because with that kind of experience, and also for us in the women`s movement, it is really wonderful that we have her, because we know she`s been working for the advancement of women for all of her life. So that is also very helpful.
REID: And lastly, Michael, does history tell us anything about -- you mentioned that 1969 film --
REID: Sorry. `64 film, about when people seek power. What does that do to the culture in general when women are successful in seeking power?
BESCHLOSS: Well, it means obviously to begin with that very young girls and young women see it as not that usual for women to get into the professions. You know, one thing that`s been a fascinating phenomenon this year. 2008, many people said, you know, it`s remarkable that Hillary Clinton, when she was running against Barack Obama, spoke so little about the fact that she would be the first woman president if elected, talked a lot about it this year.
One thing you`ll see among college students, I`ve got two sons who are in college, and they say that, you know, female classmates of theirs, they like Hillary Clinton, but they`re not as stunned by the idea of a female president because opportunity has expanded at least to such an extent that that`s not unusual.
You know, it`s a great thing, it shows that there`s progress. But at the same time, all of us have to continually remember that there`s so much more progress still to be made.
REID: Yes, and, Lana, that`s a great point, because I`ve talked to young women, particularly millennials and younger, who don`t seem to be that impressed or that sort of stunned or excited about the idea of a woman president. Why do you think that is?
MORESKY: Well, I think because of the advancements we`ve had, they start out in life with boys -- with young men, in an equal way. But as they advance and as they strive for more power, that is when it gets difficult and when they would experience more of the discrimination. So, younger people don`t see it yet.
And we still have -- just as Michael said, we still have a lot more to do, but, you know, for someone like me, as I said, I didn`t know if I would see it in my lifetime. And they know that maybe somewhere, there will be a woman in the future.
REID: And here as we`re watching Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine and former President Bill Clinton coming off of the stronger together bus, we can see them preparing to make their way to the stage, doing lots of glad-handing, very happy looking group there. Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine on the road together as a ticket with about 100 days to go before Election Day.
This is -- you`re going to see a lot of this scene out there in America. They are hitting the trail, particularly in heartland, important states like Pennsylvania. They`re going to try to get to the states where Donald Trump is trying to stake a claim, particularly for working class voters. But Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, they feel like they`ve got a message that is both about unifying the country.
There she is smiling and now she`s wearing a nice bright pink. About unifying the country, but also bringing back middle class jobs. Hillary Clinton is now taking the podium. As soon as she starts talking, we`ll go right to her. There she is waving, there is the nominee.
A pretty historic moment that we easily gloss over, a woman is the head of the ticket. And the guy beside her, he is the number two. And then the guy beside him, he`d be the first gentleman. That would be history-making. Let`s take a look at the sights and sounds of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, Clinton/Kaine ticket.
I think Bill Clinton is going to start us off.
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(TIM KAINE SPEECH)
KAINE: That the differences are stark. And I`m going to say this for a second and then introduce you to Secretary Clinton, our next president. The differences are stark. The differences are stark.
REID: All right, let`s bring in Andrea Mitchell while we listen to Tim Kaine warming up for Hillary Clinton out there in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Andrea, you`re on the trail. The reception seems to be pretty enthusiastic out there for Clinton/Kaine. Give us a bit of the sights and sounds of what you`re hearing.
ANDREA MITCHELL, NBC NEWS CHIEF FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT: Well, what you`re having -- I mean, this is small town, America. I mean, Harrisburg is the capital. But this is a wonderful, hot summer night and the circus has come to town, a political candidate for president of the United States, a woman, nonetheless. Her husband, a former president, the senator from Virginia, who is running for vice president. They`re all here and what can be a better show?
And I think people really are engaged.
Look, I started my career in Pennsylvania. And I know a lot -- I covered Harrisburg, I know what this community is like and what this state is like. And even though there is a new Suffolk University poll saying that Hillary Clinton is up significantly, by nine points, that`s not what Ed Rendell, it`s not what a lot of the party pros think is happening in this state.
They think that there`s a whole community of mostly white voters who are not getting wage increases, not getting income increases, and who are really looking for alternatives and looking for change. And so far Hillary Clinton has not persuaded most voters that she represents change, Joy.
REID: And Andrea, you know, yeah, we have -- were out on the trail early on together following Hillary Clinton around. She was doing all these small venues, these conversations with five, six, seven, ten voters. Is this a venue, this big sort of rally venue that`s she is comfortable with in your experience covering her? And how is she adjusting to that change?
MITCHELL: She has adjusted, Joy. It`s really interesting. A lot of us, when we were covering the listening tour, when she first started in Iowa, New Hampshire a year and a half ago, were at first skeptical about it. And of course it didn`t produce big news headlines.
But that`s where she picked up and she was one of the first to pick up on the devastating effect of the student loan debt in New England, especially, in New Hampshire, and a lot of the early states. And also the opioid epidemic.
So she actually developed a lot of policies through that listening tour. As cynical as a lot of reporters were that that really was a meaningful experience, it did not produce a lot of headlines. And then in June, Donald Trump got in the race and he was absolutely the shiny object, and she did not get a lot of attention, except when there was a big problem over her emails.
And so there was a lot of negative publicity.
So she`s been trying to recover from all that. I think coming out of this convention, they are trying to replicate the magic of what happened in 1992. We left Madison Square Garden, we drove down the New Jersey Turnpike, it was the Clintons and the Gores. It was like a buddy movie, if you will, of Boomers.
And the two couples clicked. And there was a lot of access. There were just a couple of buses, but we would run up and catch up with them, and they would chat, and it was, you know, a much different time. We didn`t have social media. We had primitive cell phones, we had very primitive computers.
Getting on the air was not easy, but it was kind of fun. And I know that Hillary Clinton really wanted to try to duplicate that. It worked, in terms of the excitement that she generated -- rather her husband generated then, and she`s trying to do the same.
REID: Yeah, absolutely. Oh, there they are right now. Clinton/Kaine, thank you, Andrea. Let`s listen to Hillary Clinton.
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CLINTON: Here`s what I want you to do, text join, J-O-I-N to 47246 or go to HillaryClinton.com. And I want to also tell you we are...
REID: All right, we are going to sneak in a quick break and then I`m going to be talking with radio host Charlie Sykes, MSNBC contributor Sam Seder and Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell. We`ll be right back.
REID: All right joining me now, Charlie Sykes, Sam Seder and Catherine Rampell.
I`m going to go to you first, Charlie, give us your impressions of that Democratic convention. It did feel like it stole the Republican`s entire thematic portfolio and applied it the sort of Democratic ideals. What did you think of that? Is this an effective case for moderate Republicans?
CHARLIE SYKES, RADIO HOST: Well, we`ll see whether it`s an effective case. But, yeah, there was a moment where I was sitting back going, you know, I am so old, I remember when speeches like that were given at a Republican convention. And I hope Republicans understood what happened there.
That, you know, last week, you actually had a convention that was about Donald Trump. It was about, you know, the orange god-king. And the Democrats managed to make this about America. And what was painful was watching how they have become the party of American exceptionism and patriotism and looking ahead, confidence and optimism about the future. And it really did highlight kind of the dark nature of the Republican convention.
Now, are they going to be able to continue that? I`m not sure. Hillary Clinton goes on. It was a more kind of tradition liberal laundry list, but it was a surreal experience for a lot of us conservatives you know watching that, you know, remarkable dad talk about his Muslim son who gave his life for the country, you know watching the generals talk about patriotic themes, watching Democrats cheer USA, USA. And I think it really underlined a lot of what we`ve given up by embracing Donald Trump.
REID: Yeah, indeed.
And Sam, you know, coming out of that you`re seeing on the trail, we just watched a little bit of Hillary Clinton out with Tim Kaine, you`re actually seeing joy and exuberance on the part of Hillary Clinton and her supporters, something that wasn`t -- something at least we didn`t show maybe enough of during the campaign.
SAM SEDER, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR: Yeah, and I`m not sure it was there as much. And I think the convention went -- came off as well as they could have hoped.
I mean, it was two things, one, like Charlie says, the cultural and the images, and the iconography and the sort of -- the stuff that didn`t necessarily involve substance was very sort of Republican-ish, if you will. The speeches and the policy was probably as to the left as I`ve heard four nights in a row in a Democratic convention.
So I was pretty happy about that, even if i was a little bit queasy on some of the jingoism.
But the other thing that was achieved was I think Hillary Clinton, the convention reminded the American public that she`s not this cartoon figure that Bill Clinton had talked about, she had been made out to be. And you know even now, you look at it there -- you juxtapose Trump today, sort of prodding on the "lock her up" thing, because he wants the attention and he thinks this is going to draw to them, but it looks even starker now when he says that. Because she just looks like a woman who is out there, you may disagree with her on certain things, but she just looks like an average person, not the super villain that Donald Trump seems to make her out to be.
REID: Yeah, she`s sort of the nice, Midwestern mom. That is what came out of that convention. And, you know, Sam did sort of hit on what he called jingoism, but you know, Catherine, I feel like what that was, was Democrats saying, America as it is, we love. Whereas Republicans were saying, America as it is, in its sort of multicultural context, we despise.
And that message, how do Republicans ever square that circle, because we`re saying we can only love America as it was in the `50s?
CATHERINE RAMPELL, "WASHINGTON POST": It`s a very difficult message to run on, I agree.
I think what you saw in this convention and in the policies that we`ve seen today on the campaign trail is that Hillary Clinton is trying to recast the Democratic Party as the big tent party. So big, in fact, that it includes Republicans -- it includes their rhetoric, it includes their historic, very demonstrative patriotism, and they`re welcome in the party if they`re disgusted by Trump.
REID: And just look at the pictures right there that we`re seeing of Hillary Clinton really just being mobbed by her supporters. This is something we did not see early on in her campaign, both because she did smaller events, she really didn`t do the big rallies. And you didn`t have that kind of exuberance for Hillary Clinton.
But look at what we`re seeing right now. This is the Clinton campaign that came out joyful, they came out energized.
Very quickly, Sam, is this also going to include Bernie Sanders supporters? The one thing we didn`t hear from Catherine, do we feel that they are in that group?
SEDER: I mean, I don`t know if they`re in that particular group. But I think largely speaking, they`re going to be there.
REID: All right, well Charlie Sykes, Sam Seder, Catherine Rampell, thank you all for sticking around.
And that`s All In for this evening. You can catch me again tomorrow morning bright and early for my show, "A.M. JOY" at 10:00 a.m. Eastern. Do not miss it. "THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW" starts now. Good evening, Rachel.
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