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All In With Chris Hayes, Transcript, 6/13/2016

Guests: D`Angelo Scott, Alan Grayson, Keith Ellison, Sherrod Brown, Carlos Guillermo Smith, Cord Cedeno

Show: ALL IN with CHRIS HAYES Date: June 13, 2016 Guest: D`Angelo Scott, Alan Grayson, Keith Ellison, Sherrod Brown, Carlos Guillermo Smith, Cord Cedeno

CHRIS HAYES, MSNBC ANCHOR: Good evening from Orlando, Florida, where this community is still reeling from the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. A devastating attack on a gay nightclub right behind me here that left 53 people wounded and 50 dead, including the gunman.

Tonight, I have exclusive new reporting to bring you on that gunman`s past which raised new questions about his motivations. That`s coming right up.

Already, the attack has reignited a number of tense political debates over gun safety, fighting terrorism and more. It did not take long to become a political weapon on the campaign trail, producing the most inflammatory, deceptive, and repugnant political speech in recent memory. This coming not from some fringe demagogue but from a major party`s nominee for president. Much more on that later in the show.

But, first, all over the country and around the globe, vigils are being held for the 49 innocent people who lost their lives inside the Pulse nightclub -- gestures of solidarity with a group of individuals whose safe haven, a place to celebrate who they were, was turned into a nightmare. Officials have identified all 49 victims in the massacre and of those 49, 47 names have been released after their next of kin were notified.

A majority of the victims were under age 30, they were black and white and many of them Latino. Some of them just recently out of the closet. Among them were several students, a mother of 11, an employee at Universal Studios who worked at the Harry Potter attraction. Some of them performed at the club. All of them it appears came to dance and enjoy a care-free night out.

It was Latin night at Pulse. Not long after last call, around 2:00 a.m. Sunday morning, shots rang out over the thumping music.


HAYES: The woman who posted that video to Snapchat, Amanda Alvear, wouldn`t make it out of the club. A man armed with an AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle had opened fire inside Pulse, mowing down partygoers and setting off a panic.

Mina Justice described a text she got earlier on Sunday from her son Eddie.


MINE JUSTICE, MOTHER: He texted me at 2:06 and say, mommy, I love you. In the club, there`s shooting. That was 2:06.


HAYES: Law enforcement officers arrived on the scene engaging in a gun battle with the shooter and forcing him into one of two bathrooms where he barricaded himself inside with hostages. Eddie Justice texted his mother again.


JUSTICE: Trapped in the bathroom, downtown. Please call police. I`m going to die. I`m in the bathroom. He`s coming. I`m going to die.

I asked him, was he hurt? He said yes. I said are other people hurt? He said yes. I said, what bathroom are you in? He said the women`s bathroom. Then he said, hurry, he`s in the bathroom with us.


HAYES: Mina Justice`s son Eddie was killed in the attack.

Tony Marrero was gravely wounded but he survived and described to NBC News how he managed to make it through. A warning: his account is disturbing.


TONY MARRERO, SURVIVOR: I saw he was blowing up people`s heads. So the only way that I could -- had a chance to survive was like making it seem like I didn`t have a head. So I picked up the sofa that was over there and I put my head in it. But apparently he saw that I didn`t have much blood. So he still shot me in the back.


HAYES: SWAT team eventually forced its way into the club, killing the attacker in a shoot-out around 5:00 a.m. three hours after those first shots rang out.

As the investigation proceeds, we`re learning more about that attacker. Twenty-nine-year-old Omar Mateen was born in Queens, New York. Mateen called 911 during the assault to pledge allegiance to ISIS and express solidarity with the Boston marathon bombers. Right now, there`s no evidence to suggest he had help planning his attack, which was carried out with legally purchased weapons. It appears however he may have visited the scene of the attack before.

Witnesses telling "The Orlando Sentinel" they recognized the gunman, who had been to Pulse a dozen times before the shooting.

Today, I spoke with Cord Cedeno (ph) who frequents the Pulse nightclub and lost friends there this weekend. He told me he recognized the gunman from dating apps for gay men.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I recognized him from one of the apps. But I instantly blocked him because he was creepy in his messages. I blocked him immediately. But my other friend --

HAYES: From a gay dating app?


HAYES: You recognized him from a gay dating app?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I recognized him off Grindr. The one of him in the tie.


HAYES: Cedeno told me some of his friends reported seeing Mateen on different gay dating apps and on several occasions inside the Pulse night clubs.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of my friends, he doesn`t want to be spoken to, he said he knew this guy from pack in 2007 where he`s been coming to Orlando into a lot of this area and he used to talk to him on the Adam4Adam app. Once he saw the guy`s picture on the news, he told his parents, he told his mom, like I know this guy, I know this guy.

His mom`s like, you couldn`t have known him. He`s like, no, I know this guy. And as of today I spoke with my friend and told him, I was like -- yeah, it`s a gay dating app and he instantly was like, oh my gosh, I knew I wasn`t crazy, I know this guy.

HAYES: So, you`re saying you and friends of yours had familiar from a gay dating app --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of my friends has seen him in Pulse before. He`s been in that venue several times. That`s not his first time going there. I know that for a fact. He clearly had his picture open on Adam4Adam, he`s had his picture up on Grindr, Jackt (ph) had his pictures up on there. I think one of them he didn`t have his picture but he would send them to guys.

I know there`s plenty of other guys that he`s probably tried to contact and hook up from. A lot of them are scared to come out and tell the FBI. Two of my friends went to the FBI and already spoke with them, they turned in their phones, they got all their information.


HAYES: All right. Joining me now, NBC News foreign correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin, who`s been down here in Orlando reporting.

We should note that an FBI source told NBC News that they`re aware of these reports, about him being on apps and the reports that he was in the club. They`re looking into it, obviously keeping everything open right now.

What are we learning about this killer who seems to have been a very toxic stew of a lot of different things?

AYMAN MOHYELDIN, NBC NEWS FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, we`re getting a more holistic picture of who he was based on some of the people in his life, that includes his father, that includes his ex-wife, that includes a former colleague who worked with him who`s a security guard.

And the overall image that is being portrayed is somebody who clearly had some type of mental issues. His ex-wife said he was very mentally unstable, was in fact abusive. A colleague of his who was a security guard with him said that he had these tendencies to have outbursts that were very aggressive in nature and at times very racist in nature.

And juxtapose that with what his father also described when he said that he was down in Miami, saw two men kissing each other, as a result had this outburst of anger that his father described. All of that is in addition to what the FBI is describing for us, portraying a picture of somebody who was not mentally all there or mentally stable. So, there is that element that is the focus of this investigation, whether this was an individual radicalized. If so, how?

Some interesting points came out of that FBI newser from the director. He said that this individual, the killer, had pledged allegiance to ISIS but had expressed solidarity with the Tsarnaev brothers who committed the Boston bombings, they didn`t have affiliation with ISIS. The initial investigation as to why they looked into this guy in 2013 was because he had told his colleagues that he had some kind of family relationship to al Qaeda, but at the same time was sympathetic to a Shia militant group. So essentially he was all over the place on the terrorist spectrum, if you will.

HAYES: The image -- and again, we`re -- you know, this seems like someone who`s almost a jihadi fan boy in some weird way. I mean, obviously, he`s committed this atrocity and ultimately that kind of affinity he felt for them turned into this massacre behind us, but not particularly coherent. This seems like he was attaching himself and boasting that he knew the Tsarnaev brothers when he didn`t, and those were some of the things that precipitated these investigations.

MOHYELDIN: Yes, this is where you`re seeing an issue of radicalization or self-radicalization kind of fused with mental instability, that`s a very deadly cocktail for law enforcement, because that is something that is perhaps even more unpredictable to try to solve in the future. In the past, the ability to try to firewall things being directed from overseas, the intelligence community will tell you they have pretty good measures in place to prevent these types of coordinated or directed attacks.

What they`re not used to seeing is what we`re starting to see now. These individuals who may come from backgrounds of instability, mental problems, psychological duress, what have you, and then shroud themselves in this cloak of radicalization and jihadism and carry out these attacks in names of something they say they belong to, in reality there`s very little evidence to so far support that.

HAYES: In this case, of course, he was so low as far as we know, even in San Bernardino you had a husband and wife which essentially a two-person cell which is difficult to penetrate but it more than one person. This appears to be something he carried out.

We have reporting from "Sentinel," a gentleman Kevin West who also messaged him on apps, whether this indicates he was casing this and plotting this for a long period of time, or something necessarily we don`t know at this point.

MOHYELDIN: That`s what we`re trying to find out today, trying to get to people, friends of his that may have known him, to find out if there was something more in terms of his personality, psychological. These are always the harder pieces to fill in with time, certainly something law enforcement`s looking at. But what we`ve seen in the first 24 hours in terms of those that have spoken out, it`s certainly an image of somebody who had a big mental instability issue.

HAYES: A lot of red flags. His co-worker saying he had to quit, essentially, the guy was so unstable.

All right. Ayman Mohyeldin, thank you very much for that.

As we mentioned, there are vigils taking place tonight across the country. Here is New York`s iconic Stonewall inn right now. This was the scene outside city hall in Philadelphia a short time ago. People, of course, are gathered here in Orlando tonight where there is a massive vigil just in the 7:00 hour.

Joining me now, D`Angelo Scott, former at the Pulse nightclub. He was at the club minutes before shooting.

D`Angelo, thank you for joining me. I`m so sorry to be here under these conditions.

D`ANGELO SCOTT, PERFORMER AT "PULSE" NIGHTCLUB: Yes. It`s a very delicate situation for a lot of people here. You know, the Pulse community, the gay community here, is a very tight-knit community. But Orlando being a small town, things like this just don`t happen here.

You know, it`s bad enough that the gay community has to deal with this, but the city as a whole now has to deal with this along with us. So, there`s just a very interesting situation to be in. You know, you hear about stuff like this on television and other places but never here at home.

HAYES: You were at the club on Saturday night moments before this started. How did you hear about what was going on there?

SCOTT: I actually had just left the club. We`d just gotten onto I-4. I`d gotten a mile down the road and my friend who was in the passenger seat got a text message from someone at the club saying someone got shot. Immediately after he gets his message I get a message saying, if you`re in the club get out now. There`s a shooter in the club.

So I went home and turned on the television. And I see all the cop cars. I see photos and videos of my friends running down the street in complete terror. I`ve never seen these people like this before, this group of people is always the happiest group to be around, you know? To see them all in pain and suffering and not having a resolution or a way to help, you know, was a bother to myself.

HAYES: Describe what Pulse was like. People talk about it being an open and really welcoming place and boisterous place.

SCOTT: Pulse nightclub is very unique. We were very open and welcoming to everybody. Latin night itself was one of the most unique night because the crowd was mixed. Gay kids and straight kids would come out with friend or siblings or relatives. You know, it`s a variety, open to everybody.

I consider it my second home. I`ve been a fan for ten years. I`m there usually six nights of the week, you know, hanging out with all the employees. They`re not just friends, those are people I consider family. So, this breaks the heart of a lot of people here.

HAYES: You had a friend of yours in the bathroom?

SCOTT: Yes. One of my friends I spoke with him last night at the vigil, he was replaying the events. He said that he was actually in the bathroom that the gunman barricaded himself in, and he laid on the floor and played dead for three hours. He was telling me how he overheard the gentleman when he placed the call to 911 to pledge allegiance to ISIS. He said the gentleman placed a second phone call to someone he was assuming was a friend and told this person he had three people outside, two people with snipes, one person on the door, in addition to himself, he said he was the one inside.

My friend would hear him reloading the gun, hearing shells hit the floor. He said at some point in time, he poked him in the leg with the barrel of the gun, I guess checking to see if he was dead.

The thing I thought was most unique, he said there were some black kids in the club and he asked them, are you guys black? And they said yes. He says, I don`t have a problem with the blacks and he let them exit the bathroom. But he held everyone else there.

So I`m still trying to figure out the significance of that like --

HAYES: Did you -- people who are regulars at the club saying that they had seen him before, they recognized him. Did you recognize him?

SCOTT: I personally have not. However, I had heard a rumor that there is -- the dating app Grindr which is for gay and bisexual men. Someone said they recognized one of the pictures that had been on the news from being on a profile on this app a couple of weeks ago. So, we were trying to figure out what was the significance behind that. Was he looking for one individual to attack before he changed his mind, decided to attack the entire club?

I have no idea. Like he made it very evident that he was not a fan of gay people, so it`s kind of interesting that he`d be on a gay dating app, you know?

HAYES: Thanks for taking the time. I`m really sorry.

SCOTT: No problem, thank you.

HAYES: Today, mental health professionals came to offer grief counseling at the LGBT community center here in Orlando. I visited the center earlier and interviews ahead.

But, first, joining me now, Congressman Alan Grayson. He`s of Florida`s ninth district which includes parts of Orlando.

Congressman Grayson, it`s good to see you. I`m sorry it`s under such terrible circumstances.

REP. ALAN GRAYSON (D), FLORIDA: Of course, I understand.

HAYES: How is your district holding up?

GRAYSON: Really surprisingly well. So many people have had an outpouring of help. Concrete offers of help. I went to the LGBT community center yesterday, it was packed with people straight and gay trying to help in any way they could. Moral support, material support, whatever they could.

I put out a request that people donate blood, 5,000 people donated blood yesterday in Orlando, lines two blocks long in the rain for people who wanted to do something constructive to help. I just came from a vigil where over 5,000 people attended.

HAYES: People seem very intent here that I`ve talked to on sort projecting a message of unity, solidarity, tolerance. I`ve had people talk to me about how they do not want this horror to be turned into something that is then used against other groups, Muslims particularly. How do you feel watching all this play out in the last 24 hours?

GRAYSON: Of course, there are 50 immediate victims who died. There were 53 injured. The ultimate target was everyone. That`s the way terrorism works. It seeks to instill terror.

We saw the face of hatred yesterday and the face of hatred tried to summon for us the face of fear. But it hasn`t worked. What`s happened instead is an outpouring of support from virtually everybody who can provide support.

And that`s what turns away the fear and that`s what makes people feel like they`re one, part of the community, no matter who you are, no matter what language you speak -- two-thirds of the victims were Hispanic -- no matter who you love, we`re all part of one community and we support each other and love each other.

HAYES: Are you confident that`s going to be what our political leadership can communicate and resolve to do in the wake of something like this?

GRAYSON: No, I think it`s organic. I think it`s coming from below. Certainly I`ve tried my best to summons it.

But the fact is that this is what people feel in their hearts. It`s a beautiful thing to see, to see an entire community come together to express remorse, but also hope. We are known as the city beautiful. We`d like to remain that way.

HAYES: Do you think -- how do you think this impacts the gay community here? I know it`s been a very robust one and a very vibrant one and people have talked to me all day about the amazing community here.

GRAYSON: Yes, it`s been that way for at least 40 years. This has been one of the most gay-friendly --


GRAYSON: That`s a fair statement. This has been one of the most gay- friendly communities anywhere in America. And today, with this outpouring of support for the community, I think it only strengthens the community, makes people feel -- this is how straight people really feel about us. They do love us in their hearts.

HAYES: All right. Congressman Alan Grayson, great pleasure to have you. Thank you very much.

Still to come, more on the horrific attack that strikes at the heart of a community. I visited an LGBT center, the congressman was just talking about, offering support to people in the area and focus on someone who lost two friends this weekend. More of that interview is coming up.

Plus, two very different reactions from the presumptive nominees. From Hillary`s call for gun restrictions to Donald Trump`s frightening rhetoric on banning Muslims immigrants. Congressman Keith Ellison joins me to respond ahead.

And later, Democrats in Congress stage a protest a Republican in action on gun safety, chanting, "Where`s the bill" after a moment of silence. We`ll bring you that dramatic moment later in the show.



HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We are heading into a general election that could be the most consequential of our lifetimes. But today is not a day for politics.

On Sunday, Americans woke up to a nightmare that`s become mind-numbingly familiar. A madman filled with hate, with guns in his hands and just a horrible sense of vengeance and vindictiveness in his heart. Apparently consumed by rage against LGBT Americans, and by extension, the openness and diversity that defines our American way of life.


HAYES: Hillary Clinton never mentioned her Republican opponent by name today. Her speech calling for bipartisanship and unity in the wake of the worst mass shooting in American history was in stark contrast to the one given by Donald Trump.

Ahead, how the Republican presidential nominee has made a national tragedy all about himself.


HAYES: It has been less than 48 hours suns a gunman murdered 49 in a gay nightclub in Orlando -- unimaginable tragedy that Donald Trump moved to make a story about him. "I said this was going to happen," Trump said in a statement. Adding in a tweet, quote, "Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism." Though he insisted, "I don`t want congrats, I want toughness and vigilance."

Soon after, Trump tweeted that he called it and that he asked for a Muslim ban -- which of course would not have impacted the killer, who was born in New York City.

Trump called into multiple shows this morning where he twice darkly implied in some unspecified way there may be some sort of nebulous collusion between the terrorists and the president of the United States.


TRUMP: He doesn`t get it, or he gets it better than anybody understands. It`s one or the other. We`re led by a man that either is -- not tough, not smart, or he`s got something else in mind. And the something else in mind, you know -- people can`t believe it.

Well, there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn`t want to get it. A lot of people think maybe he doesn`t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn`t know what he`s doing but there are many people that think maybe he doesn`t want to get it, he doesn`t want to see what`s really happening.


HAYES: But all that was just the warm-up to Trump`s truly breathtaking remarks this afternoon in New Hampshire which prompted "Washington Post" editor`s to tweet, "As a woman and daughter of immigrants with an Arabic last name, this is probably the most frightening Trump speech I`ve heard."

Reading from a teleprompter in prepared remarks, Trump gave a speech shot through with demonstrable obvious falsehoods, including that Hillary Clinton wants to, quote, "ban guns" and there is no screening process for refugees -- who in reality face a screening process that usually lasts years.

While putting outright falsehoods aside, Trump`s speech seems designed to ratchet up the most dangerous, irresponsible aspects of his rhetoric and whip voters into a bigoted frenzy against their fellow American Muslims who Trump once again suggested without a sliver of evidence were protecting terrorists.


TRUMP: Now, the Muslim community, so importantly, they have to work with us. They have to cooperate with law enforcement and turn in the people who they know are bad. And they know it. And they have to do it and they have to do it forthwith.


HAYES: Despite Trump`s campaign manager last month claiming that Trump will soften his stance on the, quote, "Muslim ban", Trump suggested today actually he might just expand it.


TRUMP: When I`m elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there`s a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies until we fully understand how to end these threats.


HAYES: Joining me, Representative Keith Ellison, Democrat, one of two Muslim serving in Congress.

Congressman, have you ever seen a political speech like that by a major political figure in America?

REP. KEITH ELLISON (D), MINNESOTA: George Wallace, someone like that.

I mean, actually -- it is clear that we have a narcissistic fascist who has claimed the Republican nomination. That`s the fact. The real question is what are we going to do about it as a nation?

But the real truth is, is that we have over 100 Americans who are dead or have been severely injured. Why oh why can`t his sympathies run to them for just a moment?

This is a horrific tragedy that our fellow Americans have suffered through. And it was targeted at our gay and lesbian fellow Americans, and at the Latino community, both grieving. The whole nation should be grieving with them.

And the fact that his mind is not concerning itself with what they need, comforting them, is deeply disturbing. But then turn it into a villainous rampage, rage against other Americans, who had absolutely nothing to do with this, and I mean Muslims now. It`s just outrageous.

I mean, the fact of the matter is that this is a tragedy that happens almost on a weekly basis in the United States, Charlotte, Aurora, Columbine. And then if you look at Chicago, 62 people killed in a weekend. All 62 different shooters, but 62 shot Americans.

This is where our focus needs to lie. the outrageous availability of guns. No other industrial country is like this. And the fact that if you need mental help treatment, it`s just not readily available as it could be or should be. We need to make those investments.

This is why people on the house floor today were saying, where`s the bill? You know, the Republicans wanted to have a moment of silence. I respect that, it`s out of respect for the victims.

But we can`t continue that moment of silence while we should be legislating. We need action. We need to turn to each other, not on each other, as our narcissist candidate suggests. And that`s really kind of how I feel about it, Chris.

HAYES: What do you say -- I mean, talking about gun violence, the shootings in Chicago over the weekend, other incidents of mass shooting --


HAYES: -- to someone of Trump`s ilk who says, you are deflecting from the issue here which is this particular type of radical jihadi ideology, that`s the enemy, that`s what we have to focus on, we have to defeat, anyone who doesn`t focus on that is essentially complicit in this?

ELLISON: Well, here`s what I have to say about it. Of course we have to confront and defeat ISIS. But this guy is talking about ISIS, he`s talking about al Nusra, which is al Qaeda, not ISIS. But before he was talking about Hezbollah, which is a Shia group ISIS is fighting.

This man clearly was confused and insane and just racked with absolute hatred and hostility towards just about everybody. Of course, it came out on the gay and lesbian community and the Latino community in Orlando. Our sympathies must be with them.

But I think that any sober look at who he was is this was a broken, self- hating individual who projected that hate outward. And if the reports that you shared earlier, which is that he frequented the Pulse, actually bear out to be true? That is important as well because this means that this man was so closeted and so self-loathing that he turned that rage on people who perhaps, based on what the facts turn out to be, could have been LGBT person himself.

And so, the bottom line is, we need help for people who are showing the signs of attacking their fellow Americans. We need to get sane, sensible gun controls, not gun bans but gun controls. You know, this guy bought a gun within a few days before. The police are concerned about it. They`re front-line people. Why isn`t Donald Trump concerned about the absolute availability?

He has said crazy, outrageous things before, Omar Mateen. His wife said he was domestically abusing her. What if we had a law that said no domestic abuser can get a gun? I think we might have saved a few people, who knows. But it`s time to turn to each other with love and compassion, not with hate.

HAYES: Representative Keith Ellison, thank you for your time tonight. I really appreciate it.

ELLISON: Thank you.

HAYES: Still to come, more of my interview with Cord Cedeno who was at the last minute decided not to go to Pulse on Saturday, who also lost two friends that night. That interview right after the break.



HAYES: Have you felt threatened here before in this community here in central Florida?

ROB DOMENICO, BOARD OF DIRECTOR, THE CENTER: Never. Never even once. Today, the answer is yes. I mean, I cannot believe that we have security at our doors doing bag checks, to walk into a center that the doors are typically wide open. This is awful. It`s awful that we have to back up and now be more vigilant and secure.


HAYES: The Center of Orlando has been serving the LGBT community in Central Florida for nearly four decades. Over the last 36 hours, it`s become a trauma center of sorts in the wake of the deadly attack on the Pulse nightclub, a gathering place for LGBT people in the area.

Mental health professionals, dozens of volunteers, have flooded to The Center in Orlando offering their support and services. One of those people, 23-year-old Cord Cedeno, who frequented Pulse.

I sat down with him and asked him about his experience with the nightclub.


CORD CEDENO, LOST FRIENDS AT THE PULSE: I used to walk to this club every Tuesday, and walk home, and I was always safely home walking a couple of blocks. I felt safe in that area. And things like this does not happen in Orlando, and especially in that area, in that club. I`ve never seen anything bad. I`ve never seen a fight there. I`ve been going there two years now.

HAYES: Your Saturday night you were going to go with your friends?

CEDENO: Yeah. And we were outside the club and we were in our Uber driver, and we were on the way. And I was like, I just had a weird bad feeling about it, because my friend was talking about a dream I had a week ago about a shooting. And then of course this shooting happened. I was freaked out, and I was just like, I don`t feel like going inside Pulse. I was like something`s telling me in my gut not to go inside there. And we started -- we headed to Parliament House. It`s just this is terrifying seeing so many people that were walking out of there like not alive because Latin night is one of the craziest, busiest nights. Even a lot of vacationers come and they are looking online to see what good gay clubs to go to, they see Latin night, a lot of people come from Europe and Spain. You meet so many different people from all over the world at that tiny little venue. And things like this -- they don`t happen. It`s sickening.

And it makes me sick to my stomach how seven of my friends got out of there alive, but two of them, they passed. And it`s just crazy how I almost went in the club and something was telling me in my gut not to go in.

And I ended up going to the Parliament House.

HAYES: So, you went to another club. And when did you start -- when did you start.

CEDENO: We started getting seriously around like after 2:00 a.m., started getting calls on my friends that got out. We started seeing it on the news. I went to Twitter. They`re saying run, run, everyone get out. I`m just like, I can`t believe this is happening. Like I have a picture of me there from -- I was just there last Tuesday. And I was there Saturday before I almost went in.

I was just there singing karaoke. Like, I`m there every week. And it`s just -- this is devastating.


HAYES: More on how the LGBT community is being affected by the mass shooting at Pulse nightclub next. Don`t go anywhere.


HAYES: Tonight, hundreds of people come together in cities and towns across the country to honor and mourn the 49 people murdered at Pulse, a gay nightclub right here in Orlando, just behind me. The worst instance of anti-LGBT violence, at least in a concentrated period of time, in American history.

In the hours Sunday morning attack, we`ve seen grief and anguish and also remarkable displays of strength and solidarity. And LGBT folks, from allies, and from the community which has been nothing short of devastated.

Joining me now is Carlos Guillermo Smith, he`s government affairs manager for quality Florida, largest LGBT organization in the state, and a Democratic candidate for state house of representatives.

And Carlos, you just came from this vigil. I heard there were 10,000 people there. What was that like?

CARLOS GUILLERMO SMITH, GOVERNOR AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR QUALITY FLORIDA: There must have been more than 10,000 people there. It was really surreal, surreal to see my home community, all communities coming together, not just LGBTQ, but also the Latino community, also the black and African-American community, and also the Muslim and Islamic community who have been there since day one in lockstep with us to denounce this hate and this horrible act of violence that is so surprising for a progressive city like Orlando, an LGBT-inclusive city like Orlando.

This is not who we are, which is why some of us are so surprised that something like this can happen here.

HAYES: Talking today to people at The Center and then friends of mine just corresponding LGBT friends of mine, there`s a sort of specific kind of vulnerability people feel about the club as the place this happened. My friend Richard Kim wrote this great piece about -- he said gay bars are therapy for people who can`t afford therapy, temples for people who lost their religion or whose religion lost them, vacation for people who can`t go on vacation, homes for folks without families, sanctuaries against aggression.

SMITH: Sure. Yeah. Well, gay clubs for decades have been like churches for LGBT people. It`s a place that they go to have a sense of community, to have a sense of camaraderie, of inclusion, an affirming space where they`re safe.

And I know that the history of the LGBT struggle, particularly in the United States, with gay clubs, has been one sometimes that has been included with violence as well. The Stonewall riots obviously are the most memorable and historic example.

So something like this is an attack on who we are. It`s certainly an attack on LGBTQ and Latino individuals. But it`s an attack on all Americans and our way of life.

But Orlando is stronger than this hate and we`re not going to let it divide us.

HAYES: There`s a -- Donald Trump today talked about basically trying to make this argument that if you want to stand with LGBT folks then you have to clamp down on Muslims and sign up for his agenda on immigration. What do you think about that argument?

SMITH: That`s so wrong. That`s so wrong. And it`s so divisive and toxic to be saying at a time like this that LGBT people should be turning against our Muslim and Islamic brothers and sisters. We reject that. We know that love trumps hate and we`re going to not only get past this we`re going to be stronger and we`re going to send a really, really powerful message coming out of this as the world is watching, that we are a diverse community in Orlando and that we are an inclusive community that loves everybody.

HAYES: All right, Carlos Guillermo Smith, it`s a pleasure, thank you very much. I`m sorry for talking to you under these circumstances. It`s wonderful to have you here.

SMITH: Appreciate it, thank you.

HAYES: all right, still to come, I`ll speak with Senator Sherrod Brown. And Hillary Clinton`s call for stricter gun restrictions, banning the assault rifle used in this weekend`s attacks, stay with us.



JAMES CORDEN, HOST, THE TONY AWARDS: Theater is a place where every race, creed, sexuality, and gender is equal, is embraced, and is loved. Hate will never win. Together we have to make sure of that.


HAYES: The 70th Annual Tony Awards dedicated its ceremony last night to those affected by the tragedy here in Orlando. Host James Corden began the show, as you just saw, honoring the victims and their families. Silver ribbons were worn in tribute to those touched by the tragedy.

The awards show was equal parts cathartic and joyous and momentous, with all four awards for best performances and musicals going to black actors, a Broadway first.

The musical Hamilton won 11 awards, including best musical. And accepting the award for best original score, the creator of Hamilton and my old friend Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote a sonnet recognizing those grappling with the events in Orlando.


LIN-MANUEL MIRANDA, CREATOR, HAMILTON: We chase the melodies that seem to find us until they`re finished songs and start to play. When senseless acts of tragedy remind us that nothing here is promised, not one day. The show is proof that history remembers. We live through times when hate and fear seem stronger. We rise and fall and light from dying embers rembrances that hope and love last longer. And love is love is love is love is love is love is love cannot be killed or swept aside. I sing Vanessa`s symphony, Eliza tells her story. Now fill the love with music, love and pride. And thank you so much for this.



HAYES: Just 11 days before the massacre in Orlando, President Obama talked about his frustration with a system in which an individual might be on a no-fly list, for instance, but still be allowed to purchase firearms.

The president`s remarks were made at a PBS town hall in response to a pointed question about his position on gun control.


OBAMA: I just came from a meeting today in the Situation Room in which I`ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites, living here in the United States, U.S. citizens, and we`re allowed to put them on the no-fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.

This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer. And if he wanted to walk into a gun store or a gun show right now, and buy as much -- as many weapons and ammo as he can, nothing`s prohibiting him from doing that even though the FBI knows who that person is.


HAYES: The president expressed a similar frustration in his remarks today. According to FBI director James Comey, Omar Mateen was no longer on the terror watch list when he bought the guns used in the Orlando shooting. But even if he had been, that alone would not have legally prevented him from purchasing those weapons.

Today, President Obama said that should be the subject of some sole searching.



CLINTON: If the FBI is watching you for a suspected terrorist link, you shouldn`t be able to just go buy a gun with no questions asked and you shouldn`t be able to exploit loopholes and evade criminal background checks by buying online or at a gun show.

We have to make it harder for people who should not have those weapons of war.


HAYES: In her first campaign event since yesterday`s deadly shooting, Hillary Clinton said today, the country needs to prevent people who may pose a threat from obtaining assault weapons or as she called them weapons of war.

A little later on the Senate floor, Senate minority leader Harry Reid said he was, quote, heart-sickened by inaction of lawmakers on gun control legislation. Reid was specifies talking about Republicans who last December, a day after the San Bernadino mass shooting, rejected a bill that aims to stop suspected terrorists from legally buying guns.

Meanwhile, on the House floor today, Democrats confronted Speaker Paul Ryan calling for votes on gun control measures.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am really concerned that we have just today have a moment of silence and later this week, the 17th...

REP. PAUL RYAN, (R-WI) SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Is the gentleman stating a parliamentary inquiry?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Mr. Speaker, I am particularly interested about three pieces of legislation that have been filed in response...

RYAN: The gentleman`s not sitting in parliamentary (inaudible) -- the question will the House suspend the rules and pass the bill as amended? Members will record their vote by electronic device. This is a five-minute vote.

UNIDENITIFIED MALE: Where`s the bill? Where`s the bill? Where`s the bill?


HAYES: The White House just announced President Obama will travel here to Orlando on Thursday to pay his respects to victims` families.

Joining me now, Senator Sherrod Brown, Democrat from Ohio, who was on stage with Hillary Clinton today in Cleveland when she spoke about what happened and about gun control.

And senator, I want to start with this specific policy at issue. There was a vote in the Senate, Democrats voted for it, Republicans voted against. They couldn`t override the filibuster. What do you say to people who say, look, no-fly lists -- and there are several of them -- are a mess, people get on them for the wrong reason, and this is a constitutionally protected right and you want to take away people`s rights without due process?

SEN. SHERROD BROWN, (D) OHIO: Well, hardly. I think the president made it very clear that if you are on a no-fly list, meaning the FBI, the government, thinks of you as someone that might commit a terrorist act, you can`t fly, you can obviously appeal and get off a list prove you don`t belong on it, but you shouldn`t be able to buy a gun. I mean, that`s pretty clear.

I was talking to a reporter today who told me she can`t find Republicans who will talk to her because she`s going to ask two questions. One is about the assault weapon ban or about the no-fly list. That you can`t buy a gun. The other question, she said they don`t want -- said no Republican she could call, that she called, would be willing to acknowledge that this was a hate crime aimed at lesbians and gays in our country. And it`s just tragic.

And one of the things that came through to me today as my wife and I were watching this -- Connie and I were watching it this weekend is we remember a year ago, almost to the day, on June of 2015, we stood on the steps of Cleveland City Hall about an hour and a half after the court decision celebrating an Ohioan, James Obergefell, who took the case to the Supreme Court, making -- establishing marriage equality.

And so as we celebrated with our lesbian and gay friends, our LGBT friends, a year ago, we stand with them today, stand with them in protecting them and being with them because of this heinous crime aimed at 50 gay, mostly gay Americans in this nightclub.

And it was just horrible. And Americans need to come together, not be divided over guns, not be divided over hate crimes. Let`s got right thing here.

HAYES: Hillary Clinton said something today that really caught my attention. She talked about getting back to the spirit after 9/11 of 9/12, a sort of sense of national unity, and national purpose. And I think a lot of people remember that sort of feeling of solidarity. But there`s also a lot of folks who raised the point today that that was also a period that we authorized the use of military force, an authorization we still have, and voted for the PATRIOT Act, and a lot of things came out of that moment of national unity.

How did you understand that comment?

BROWN: Well, good things and bad things come out of that, clearly. I mean, I remember George Bush used that to pass trade legislation. He used that to pass tax cuts.

So some of that clearly was ill-conceived. But I was standing right behind Secretary Clinton in Cleveland and sitting there after they brought a chair out. And I remember that one of the things she talked about was that next day, how people came together.

Republican president, Republican mayor of New York, Republican governor of New York, the people came together. President Bush went to a mosque, I remember soon after. President Bush supported the extension of the assault weapon ban.

But look how the Republican Party has changed. Whether the NRA -- the NRA was around then but nothing like the power they have today to get just about every Republican on board to fight against anything, including this terrorist watch list.

I mean, I go back -- it`s just incredible. I watched your program a minute ago, Chris, when President Obama is talking about how if you can`t fly because you might be a terrorist, but you can buy a gun? I mean, that`s the most ludicrous thing, except we can`t get Republicans to support changing that law so that the people that can`t fly can`t buy guns.

I mean, how -- nobody in the world can imagine how stupid our congress has been or how in the pocket our congress has been of the gun lobby. And that`s I think more to the point.

HAYES: All right, Senator Sherrod Brown, thanks for making time tonight, I appreciate it.

BROWN: Thanks. Of course, Chris, thank you.

HAYES: All right, that is All In for now. We will be back here again live in Orlando at 11:00 p.m. in just two hours Eastern. So make sure you stay tuned for that.

The Rachel Maddow show starts right now.