John Gans: Vindman firing was about 'punishing an institution that didn't play along with the Ukraine scheme.'

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Former Pentagon speechwriter, John Gans, joined Andrea Mitchell to discuss the NSC staff shakeup and the recent ousting of Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman. He said Vindman's firing was meant to 'punish those who were willing to step up and testify to Congress' during the impeachment inquiry.