IE 11 is not supported. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser.

Don't call it Trump's 'Big Lie.' It's an attack on America.

05:33

MSNBC's Brian Williams asks Baratunde Thurston and Bill Kristol if we should stop using the phrase 'The Big Lie' as shorthand for Trump's attempts to overthrow the 2020 election which led to a violent insurrection on Capitol Hill.