In this March 10, 2016 photo, Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma Attorney General, gestures as he speaks during an interview in Oklahoma City, Okla. (Photo by Sue Ogrocki/AP)
Rachel Maddow

Trump's EPA chief talks up benefits of...

Scott Pruitt's old line was that the climate crisis isn't real. His new posture is that it might be real, but it might also be good for us.